Oral Sex is Demonic (Yes, Really)

On By J. WilliamsIn Sexual Immorality Exposed

“Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” – 2 Cor. 7:1

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.” – Rom. 12:1

“Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.” – Rom. 6:13

The fact someone opened the door to demons through the act of oral sex is pretty telling:

Ephesians 5:3 declares, “But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity…because these are improper for God’s holy people.“

The Bible condemns sodomite activity in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. The word in the Greek is “arsenokoites” which can mean a sodomite:

Strong’s Concordance

arsenokoites: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity

Original Word: ἀρσενοκοίτης, ου, ὁ

Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: arsenokoites
Phonetic Spelling: (ar-sen-ok-oy’-tace)
Short Definition: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity
Definition: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity; a sodomite, pederast.

Source: http://biblehub.com/greek/733.htm

It is common knowledge (I think) that one of the most common sexual acts among homosexuals is oral copulation.

According to Merriam-Webster, the definition of sodomy is:

  1. :  anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also :  copulation with an animal

In Romans 1:26 and 27, speaks of a “natural use” of a woman and man. Since this passage speaks about the violation of the “natural use” concerning homosexual sex, then it logically follows oral sex can be prohibited, seeing that our mouths are used for eating and talking. Just as our feet are for running and walking, and our….., figure out the rest from there.

My apologies for getting graphic, but since there are self-proclaimed Christians who would defend the oral sex act, I must get into details more than I would like to. God didn’t create nor design the mouth for the genitals, nor the genitals for the mouth. It is a gross perversion of the function and purpose of the genitalia to put it in a person’s mouth for sexual gratification. Just as it is a gross perversion for a person to use a foreign object (e.g., a vibrator) for sexual gratification as in the case of masturbation. It is contrary to the purpose of God’s design. Oral sex, anal sex, nor masturbation will never bear good fruits. It’s not procreative. The reason God designed males to ejaculate semen during climax was to impregnate the woman via penile/vaginal intercourse. Semen doesn’t belong in anyone’s mouth (or anus), but instead inside a man’s wife’s vagina.

Satan, the deceiver, corrupts and twists God’s creation, especially in the realm of sex. The Spirit of the living God is not behind any perversions. Remember, we are made in the image of God, and thus we ought to live up to His image, especially by not debasing ourselves and our temple by engaging in animalistic, perverted acts.

STIs and STDs one can contract through oral sex are gonorrhea, genital herpes, chlamydia, HIV, hepatitis A, hepatitis B and hepatitis C, genital warts, Trichomoniasis, HPV (human papillomavirus), and pubic lice [sources 1,2]. Oral sex has also been linked to throat cancer. In fact, oral sex is fueling an ‘epidemic’ of throat cancer: “Researchers discovered that people with 10 or more oral sex partners were more than 4x more likely to develop mouth and throat cancers.” [sources 1, 2].

Interestingly, most, if not all, plagues and pestilence mentioned in the Bible came/come directly from God (e.g., Lev. 26:21, 25; Num. 16:49, 25:9; Deut. 28:22; Rev. 11:6; Rev. 16), and not from the devil as one might assume.

Note: the featured image is the mouth of a person with syphilis, one of the several STIs one can contract through oral sex. Also, the comment section of this page may not be suitable for some people as it contains graphic content.

If you don’t know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you can receive Him into your heart, and He can deliver you from darkness and sin and have your name written in His Book of Life.

If you are sincere, you can say this simple prayer to the Father (it doesn’t have to be word for word):

“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. Please forgive me of all of my sins, just as I forgive others. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your only-begotten Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross, I believe in my heart Jesus is Lord and was raised from the dead and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in the Lord and GOD Jesus’ precious and holy name. Amen.”

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  2. Anonymous

    God didn’t design the mouth for grown men to suck unto his wives breasts. Breasts are for feeding babies. Ergo, it’s a perversion. Yet the Song of Songs says otherwise.

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    1. Mac

      I was going to go to those exact scriptures….. the fact is, the bible doesn’t spell it all out, but some things are left up to personal choice between husband and wife as long as its strictly between the two.

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      1. Anonymous

        Mac, stop deceiving yourself into believing that some sexual acts which God has forbidden in the marriage bed are permissible between husband and wife. J. Williams has given you the scriptures and definition of Sodomy to call it what it is: SIN. No sodomite will enter the kingdom of God. That goes for both man and woman. Hearing this isn’t politically correct to the mans fallen nature. Because it is a work of the flesh and demonic in nature. The reason this is hard to hear because we are lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God. Sin is pleasurable! That’s why it is so hard to let go, break, and renounce. Because the flesh it weak but the spirit is willing. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh ( living a life that caters to sinful appetites and impulses) cannot please God. But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; But the Spirit is life because of righteousness (Which He provides). Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh (our human nature, our worldliness, our sinful capacity), to live according to the (impulses of the) flesh (our fallen nature without the Holy Spirit) – for if you are living according to the (impulses of the) flesh, you are going to die. But if (you are living) by the (power of the Holy Spirit, you are habitually putting to death the sinful deeds of the body in sanctification, you will really live forever. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. It’s conditional. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh which gratify the body, but those who are living according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit (His will and purpose). So I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world ( 1 John 2:16-17): but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Our minds need to be renewed with the mind of Christ and not that of the flesh. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Start fasting and praying that God will deliver you from the spirit of lust and perversion. That God will develop in you one of the fruit of the Spirit which is Self Control. I pray this help you gain a proper insight on God’s holiness and sanctification to work in us as true believers in Christ. So examine yourself, whether you be in the faith; test yourself. Do you not know yourself, that Jesus Christ is in you? Unless indeed you fail the test and are rejected as counterfeit?

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          2. Anonymous

            You shouldn’t, it’s still genital , your mouth is given for eating food , it’s not a replacement of genitals , you have given dick for that purpose.

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          1. E M

            J. Williams, You should write an article on MMA. I highly recommend you as a cross-reference Eric Wilson Martial Arts testimony. His website is: Isaiah Ministries /little light studios.tv / on YouTube as well.

            On Fri, Apr 1, 2022, 8:15 AM Jesus Truth Deliverance wrote:

            > commented: “This was edifying. God has placed eternity in my heart. This > is TRUTH. Thanks for sharing.” >

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          3. Mary

            My husband forces me to engage in this knowing full well I literally despise it. He uses it as a “punishment” if I do things he doesn’t like or I don’t “obey” him.

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          4. Anonymous

            If anyone simply just reads Song of Songs you can already see that oral between a male and a female is implied.. saying that a man can’t do that would be like saying you also can’t put your fingers in places because your hands are going someplace that they weren’t meant to be in. Or kissing her elbow or other places on her body when your lips are meant to only kiss her lips if applying that same logic then. Also don’t kiss your child’s forehead since you’ve also kissed your wife’s lips. See how ridiculous that gets really quickly when it goes above and beyond? Although many things said here are true, oral sex between two married adults is definitely not wrong. For some women this is their only form of that pleasure that their body has been designed to experience can have it that way besides your hands, but if you can’t even use your hands since your hands weren’t meant to make babies then that leaves the woman with no options. That’s ridiculous

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        3. Paul

          Give a man a penis then forbid him from using it.
          That’s not the work of God. That’s the work of a demon or tormentor.
          Explains perfectly why only 200000 or so are likely to get into heaven. Strickly A sexuals.
          To make such a sacrifice is a torment not deliverance.
          I don’t understand a dietys fixation with our sexual practice at all.

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        4. erik beni

          This is a ridiculous concept you have written up. “sin is pleasurable,” many holy things are also pleasureable. The reason we are to avoid sin is because sin causes pain or suffering to either ourselves or those around us. To say touching your wifes vagina or oral sex is a sin would need to imply there is hurt from the act caused to the world. If oral sex is a sin, then so is kissing. God does not want u to kiss your wife? Sex is only for pro-creation? So we should only have sex once every 9 months and if you only plan to have one kid than there should be no further sex. These types of things are subjective and open to interpration, anything up to interpretation can not be labeled as sin.

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        5. Anonymous

          I am so glad that the God I believe in doesn’t sound like some insecure cretin that severely needs therapy. Being a deprogrammed and recovered fundamentalist Christian myself, u have no idea what an absolute field day I have with these websites!! 🤭

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      2. Anonymous

        The reason God put restrictions in the marriage bed between husband and wife was to avoid opening doors to spirits of lust and sexual perversion. Just like in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve. God set boundaries of which trees to eat of and which tree not to eat of. The boundaries set in the marriage bed is to protect the married bed and to develop self control concerning sexual appetites. Once we go beyond the boundaries set in the marriage bed, we give place to the devil/demons of lust and sexual perversions to come in and defile the marriage bed. Marriage is to be honored by all and the marriage bed kept undefiled, because God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers. For our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. For God did not call us to be impure/unclean, but unto holiness. Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.

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        1. oron61

          That’s basically saying that God made the rules so that they might be easily broken, and are made that way so that he might condemn us, just in the manner God planted the tree and then led them into temptation with the serpent and making the fruit pleasing to the eye.
          When God wove into us our cursed, wicked, evil flesh (Psalm 139:13) which is programmed to strive against the spirit, what would that be done for except to entice us to sin?
          It’s perfectly aligned with scripture that God would impose a rule as well as its consequences (God is the creator; Satan cannot have created HIV.) but what’s the point of trying to “teach” us self control, when everyone knows that there is no self-control within us because we were created sinners, and that it’s all from God anyways?

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          1. Zoe

            God did not created diseases nor does he give it. Disease is the consequence of sin and when we open up the door for the enemy, we open up the door for him to enter in and kill, steal and destroy.

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          2. oron61

            Who put the enemy behind the door? Who set up disease to be a consequence of sin and stands by complicitly as it ravages the innocent?

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        2. Anthony Constance

          God did not put restrictions in the marriage bed. There is no such scriptures. You are interpreting the bible in your opinion this is not what God intended he does not leave his word up to interpreation.

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        3. Anonymous

          Sure, if both are okay with it and there is no undo coercion. What would be the logical reason other than someone finding it gross, which is totally understandable but not a reason to dictate to others’ private intimacy.

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    3. I saw this article and had to click on it. It’s so funny because there is an entire book in the Bible (song of songs) that talks about oral sex between a husband and wife. And why do you think that God created a female clitoris? Lol!

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      2. TheAudax

        Based on your reasoning, it’s also wrong to kiss as well since the mouth was made for eating and nothing else. Therefore marriage ceremonies use a form of sexual perversity to celebrate God’s convent love between a man and a woman? Wondering why no one has dropped dead at the altar on their wedding day or why hasn’t God raised up another Phineas at every wedding to kill those committing unsanctified acts in the church, during a religious ceremony for an institution that celebrates the love He has created between a man a woman. Hmmmm🤔. Help me understand. You must have thr answer for that one too. Huh???

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        3. Anonymous

          The clitoris is for pleasure NOT excreting fluids. Only the urethra, the hole under the clitoris is where a woman pees from and the vagina is where glands are that creates
          the fluids. No fluids come from the clitoris. Embryos all have the clitoris and then when the male forms it is the same nerve centers and organ….it grows out and becomes the penis. So the penis and clitoris both have the nerve endings for pleasure that were designed for climaxing. God created us that way. Understand the anatomy…please.

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    4. Rick O'Shay

      The song of Solomon makes it quite clear that a wife is not only permitted but is actually encouraged to suck off her husband and enjoy what he’ll produce into her mouth.

      It likewise permits and encourages a husband to lick his woman down south.

      And sodomy is quite clearly referring only to men porking other men.

      The one and only area where you seem to be correct is that sex as a whole is only supposed to be between a husband and his wife.

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          2. ladyflashxoxo

            A lot of people in the comments are using Solomons song to justify that it is acceptable but forget King Solomon had repeatedly committed adultery, having 300 concubines and 700 wives 😀 and you risk the danger in that. I pray the Lord gives you all discernment this article is factual.

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    6. LadyAni

      You should take into account that is Solomon who sings that and he isn’t Jesus or God. I also take into account that he’s human like all of us and he also committed adultery with humongous amount of concubines

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        1. mark

          so if I want to put my penis in a beautiful woman’s vagina and I am not marrried to her, that is not lust because it is neither anal nor oral. Do you ever think before you write?

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      2. factsrstubborn

        Well, Mr. Bobby what’s being held back in medical-political monopoly is oral and anal sex’s connection with cancer. Farrah Fawcett stated it before she died as well as Mike Douglas on his throat cancer. Sun has it’s pleasure only for a season. You sound like someone whose always on the receiving end of that.

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        1. Anonymous

          so it is not possible to get disease by vaginal sex? – and cervical cancer has nothing to do with sex?. Your argument is a joke. Maybe Douglas was smokin’ too much – and by smokin’ I do not mean what you are thinking!.

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          1. mark

            its no good arguing with people like this, they are not capable of critical thinking. Tey spout off stuff but cannot back up their arguments. They ome out with ridiculous claims

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          2. Anonymous

            Firstly Douglas has admited to having sex addiction. Secondly the HPV virus was responsible for this cancer, The same virus that can cause cervical cancer. Answer are: 1) how many sexual partners had a women who “sold” him this nasty ill? 2) How many women he licked? Don’t you understend that every risk of venereal diseases or other healt issues related to them increases with the number of partners? Don’t you understand that not oral caresses between sposes are the problem but adultery and sexual promiscuity? Think people, think!

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          3. Joshua

            This generation is hell bent on justifying the things they desire to do! They have no history of Baal Peor ritual! Those thinking there are no risks in oral sex need to research the biggest cause of throat cancer. Mike Douglas even admitted this was the cause of his throat cancer. Baal Peor “opening of the hole”! Farrah Faucet’s anal cancer was from anal sex. She admitted it herself.

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          4. Mary

            My husband forces me to engage in this knowing full well I literally despise it. He uses it as a “punishment” if I do things he doesn’t like or I don’t “obey” him.

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        2. mark

          Factsrstubborn – following your argument – normal sex is connected to syphilis, chlamidya et al. Sin has its pleasure only for a season. Ergo normal sex is a sin.

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          1. Anonymous

            correction, those diseases, aka curses only come into effect if a woman has been sinning and having MULTIPLE men, which also brings into light Gods other condition about sex for women being with one man *their husband, so they dont contract and spread STi and STDS

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      3. Anonymous

        It’s not nonsense. Oral sex is not okay once you’re married. God has condemned it as SIN. Oral sex is a work of the fallen nature of the flesh an demonic in nature according to God’s Word. Those that practice Oral sex will not inherit the kingdom of God. God calls this act: Sodomy. No sodomites will enter the kingdom of heaven. Look it up in the dictionary for what it is. God also says it in His Word. But it is up to you and your wife to choose to obey or disobey the Word of God. Choose life and not death..

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        1. mark

          “God calls this act: Sodomy. ” Please tell me where the bible states this. If you can unambiguously and explicitly cite and show that this in God’s word then I owe you an apology. Otherwise stop making things up!

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  4. Anonymous

    so orals not for marriage? why do we have a clit that feels good for a woman i dont get it??? not trying to be argument i just want to understand why the clit feels good

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      2. 300yardsinfairway

        Simply factually wrong for most. Only a small minority of women can ever receive enough stimulation by missionary intercourse to ever reach orgasm. The clitoris has no reproductive purpose, but simply provides stimulation.

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      1. 300yardsinfairway

        Biggest in the world? One would think it would have been spelled out clearly somewhere among the 773,746 words in the Bible, as many other sins (presumably NOT “the biggest sin in the world”) certainly are…

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    3. Anonymous

      The bible says that sin is pleasurable but for a season. There may be pleasure in sin for a season, but in the end it leads to destruction. The fallen human nature is lover of pleasure more than lovers of God. For example: The fallen human nature takes pleasure in cussing someone out. But even though that is true, that doesn’t make it right. You see my point. Just food for thought.
      Check out this commentary:
      The reason God put restrictions in the marriage bed between husband and wife was to avoid opening doors to spirits of lust and sexual perversion. Just like in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve. God set boundaries of which trees to eat of and which tree not to eat of. The boundaries set in the marriage bed is to protect the married bed and to develop self control concerning sexual appetites. Once we go beyond the boundaries set in the marriage bed, we give place to the devil/demons of lust and sexual perversions to come in and defile the marriage bed. Marriage is to be honored by all and the marriage bed kept undefiled, because God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers. For our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. For God did not call us to be impure/unclean, but unto holiness. Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.

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      1. mark

        all very well your text, but there is no arguement as to why oral sex between man and wife is a sin? Your words tell us nothing on this

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        1. intrepidsaints

          Mark, what makes the most indelible impression on me is the reality of demons. They are persons without bodies. That’s why they work so hard to find ways into our human bodies. There are spiritual portals into the human body. In this case the portals, or doorways, are the mouth and the genital organs. Imagine demons with eager, ghastly faces and Cheshire cat grins “standing by” at these portals, waiting for one or more of them to open. Then imagine the moment of climax, where consciousness is altered, where a doorway opens and where demons flood in. Once they are in, they are difficult to extract. The more powerful the demon, the more powerful a demon has its hold on a person (as in with legal rights), the more difficult and tricky it usually is to extract them. As a “starter set” for learning more about demons, I would recommend a three-part interview with Win Worley. Here is the link to the first part. The others should follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Azs6Q629Y
          God bless.

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          1. mark

            “In this case the portals, or doorways, are the mouth and the genital organs.” Aha – so normal sex is demonic too? Demosn can also enter the vagina on climax. By the way I haven’t had sex for almost 5 years being unmarried. Don’t get me wrong, I fear God, but your arguments apply just as much to normal sexual intercourse.I’m really gettting tired off all this. People making claims with no factual back up. Me asking for such and nothing coming – just regurgitation of groundles arguments which apply to intercourse as well as oral sex and kissing

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  5. Anonymous

    Yes I agree. Oral & Anal “sex” is not of God. The reason I put sex in parenthesis there is because I know for certain this is not even sex but an abomination. It is a twisting of what is natural and using it in unnatural ways. Thank you for this website. Most “christian” websites out there think that these sort of abominable acts are ok within marriage….how they are deceiving many with their twisted & dark views. We are living in the last days & it’s hard to see the truth because the darkness is so vast now. Thanks again for preaching against these abominations.

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    1. Mac

      Hands are not for sex (fingers) they are for eating and cleaning ourselves. Why do we use them to stimulate our partners? Our mouths are for talking & eating, why do men suck a wifes breasts in Songs of Songs? Why do we kiss?

      The scripture is speaking about homosexuality when talking about abominations or unclean sexual acts.
      Anything between husband and wife in there own bedroom is okay by Gods word. Read the book of Hebrews ……

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      2. Anonymous

        Mac, there is no such thing as HOLY SODOMY (anal/oral sex)
        Whether it be between two of the same sex, animals, or heterosexual.
        Sodomy is forbidden in the marriage bed between husband and wife.
        The scriptures are very clear concerning those who practice this lifestyle.
        Be not deceived: No sodomites shall inherit the kingdom of God. ( 1 Cort. 6 9-10)

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        1. mark

          Sodomites are defined in the bible by the faggots in Sodom. You made up the “oral sex” bit. Yes you did and do not deny it.Your claims are ridiculous

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      3. Mark

        Yeah Mac. These people are not even dealing with our arguements. Lacking substantiation, based on God’s word and the definition of words.They are not able to give any good reason for their arguments, sating things that do not prove their case. Liek the bloke above going on about demonic portals being opened on climax, but refusing to state why such portals attend to oral sex only

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      1. intrepidsaints

        “But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity,… ” Ephesians 5:3 (NIV 1984)

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        1. Mark

          intrepidsaints. Your cited God’s word, but there is no substantiation and no reference to oral sex. Maybe it is sexually impure not to wash an hour before sex.

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  6. B

    You are completely insane. What a bunch of repressed homosexuals I am seeing on this website. Embrace yourself and true nature. God loves you and forgives regardless, that is why he is GOD and the person writing these ignorant rambling articles about everything they never got to do in life because they were too scared and can only rationalize anything that challenges their point of view as being “evil” because they are a COWARD

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    1. Viktor

      staymad. lol.

      True Christians preach the truth, but you’re so triggered you just can’t handle it. Sounds like a personal problem, buddy.

      And look, I’ve had ex-gfs in the past and engaged in oral sex, and yes, it feels good, but if you really think about it, what is it about? It’s about domination and sensual pleasure, not procreation and love. So, although I want to believe it’s permitted in God’s eyes, I’ve got a feeling myself that more than likely it is not. Because Christians shouldn’t get lost in sensual pleasures, they should stay righteous.

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      1. Princess

        First of all God made sex to be pleasurable. Sex is not just about having children it’s also about enjoying your spouse’s body and vise versa. The Bible never said don’t have oral sex, as long as both consent to it what’s wrong. What happens in the marriage bed as long as it’s consenting, as long as it doesn’t disrespect each other, and as long as both enjoy it what problem do you people have against it?

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        2. AJ

          I use to practice and like you I found it enjoyable but that’s because I wasn’t convicted of my lust in that area I just thought putting fornication away was good enough oral sex is sodomy.

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      4. Anonymous

        There cannot be sex without lust for your spouse otherwise you literally couldn’t get an erection. To say oral sex is about pleasure and lust and not love or procreation is ridiculous because you cant have one without the other.

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      1. Paul Gibbons

        Sorry, but that’s just not how things take place.
        Not all women hate it. Some actually enjoy it. Some are happy to do it if they get oral pleasure too.
        Never been anything threatening or menacing about oral sex I’ve been involved in.

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      2. Paul Gibbons

        Sorry, but that’s just not how things take place.
        Not all women hate it. Some actually enjoy it. Some are happy to do it if they get oral pleasure too.
        Never been anything threatening or menacing about oral sex I’ve been involved in. What your describing is rape.

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    3. Anonymous

      The people defending oral sex, Colossians 3:5. There’s a story in the Bible when a man is having intercourse with his wife and He doesn’t ejaculate in her to impregnate her and God instantly strikes him dead. Why because it’s a waste of sperm, oral sex and masturbation is the wasting of sperm. It is demonic and you can contract spiritual spouses through it. The same spirit of cannabilism is linked to oral sex and it’s the worship of Baal. Christians need to do less debating on Gods word and twisting it for their own sexual pleasures. Just get married and try oral sex and you will see the marriage fall apart because of spiritual spouses. The amount of Christian couples that go to counselling confess they engage in oral. If you haven’t experienced it, it doesn’t mean it don’t exist just remember that. The same with other things people are quick to say it doesn’t exist, simply because they haven’t experienced it.The same how God tells us not to eat pork or shelled fish, Christians pick and choose what’s a sin and not, but when a Christian gets a tattoo or get drunk they will judge them. Maybe God was telling us not to eat pork because it’s an unclean animal, demons were cast out into pigs, that says something and they eat their own … (you are what you eat) maybe God said don’t eat shellfish because shrimp are the rodents of the sea so when you criticise Asian people for eating rat you are doing similar. God says these things for our good and protection, yet when we get cancer or demonic oppression etc we say why God! Why me! We are not the victims if we twist everything for our flesh. Our flesh is our enemy, pleasure and stimulation should be the last of a Christians worries, as someone that was into New age practices and now saved, evil is accumulating and witchcraft is so normal, John Ramirez talks about it in depth.To add, that doesn’t mean be legalist, but try living a life without these things and it’s pure bliss! The more you give up your flesh, fast to break bondages, the more you will hear Gods voice clearly and that is from EXPERIENCE 🤣 that’s the word for today

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      3. Jr

        You are talking about the story of Onan. Onan’s brother Er was slain because he was wicked, but he had a woman named Tamar and they had no children, so Onan was commanded to have a child with her in his brother’s name and marry her. He had sex with her, but did not impregnate her by pulling out before ejaculation and Yah killed him because he disobeyed. We see a biblical pattern where Yah punishes people when they go against his command. So to say he was killed for any other purpose other than breaking Yah’s command to have a child with this specific woman would be illogical. (Genesis 38). Cannibalism spirits being linked to oral sex? Jeez so is there no kissing, licking, or sucking allowed either that doesn’t involve oral to genital contact? If we really run with your logic there then no contact with the mouth should be allowed. And then the baal worship, which baal? There were many baals amongst the heathens/gentiles. I assume you mean Baal Peor, I’ve seen this logic before taking an act that’s used in a pagan ritual and making it forbidden because they do it also. Worship of other entities requires intention not similarity in action. Lastly, debating scripture allows the truth to be upheld, it is necessary.

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      4. Anonymous

        So according to you man and wife should only have sex until preganant and should not have sex for another 9 months and if you only plan to have one child you should never have sex again. Then you might argue “no you can have sex but you can’t use contraceptive you can only have sex when the woman isn’t ovulating to avoid pregnancy. But’ choosing to not have sex when a woman is ovulating is still manipulating nature. This is why all of this is is just semantics. If something was truly a sin god would of been specific in his word and not left it up to interpretation.

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  7. Ralph

    Jesus said: Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give [it] you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
    Jesus CHRIST has NEVER done this for me, nearly FORTY years on, in fact He has done the opposite. I want to get married, but Jesus spitefully prevents me from doing so, in collusion with satan. Ever wondered how satan can get God’s ear, i.e. when he asked God for permission to attack Job, and God said in effect Yes, sure, go ahead (but not 100%, say only getting maybe 90% of what he asked for). The most evil being ever, being able to get something from God, yet when Christians like myself beg Him for help, not only does He deliberately ignore me, He even gives satan permission to attack me!!! God doesn’t even treat me like a son, not even like a servant and not even like a slave, far far worse than even treating a dog. Jesus loves satan much more than He loves me, if He ever did. Jesus just wants to utterly crush my spirit, and laugh about it. That’s so that HIS joy may be full. Jesus tramples me underfoot, and enjoys it.

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    1. uta pieper

      Oh!
      I recommend these websites:
      -tentmaker
      -the evangelical universalist forum
      -biblical universalism, …etc.
      (these are universalist websites).
      I have felt the same at times.

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    2. Anonymous

      Hi Ralph reading your comment hits close to home for me in my past there were times I felt exactly like this. But I’m here to maybe shine a little light on your situation. Singleness is very hard I’m not going to lie and although I’ve been living in it for 5 years no where close to as long as you have been when I truly accepted it for what it is and started to walk the path God wanted me to walk spouse or not I learned that I really was not ready for marriage although I really thought I was. So a lot of times God with holds blessings from us bc we are not ready although we may think we are. And a lot of times there are things that are unfinished that need to be before we can step into a new season. For example a recurring sin you can’t break especially if it’s a sexual one, or just being the Ephesians 5 man or proverbs 31 women which your spouse may need. Could be what God is waiting on your to change For me there was a lot of emotional maturing letting go and trusting in God that I had to develop. Which I am still in progress with. But I’m here to tell you if u think God has forgotten about you he hasn’t he’s just waiting for you to accept his call and trust his timing. In genesis when God told Abraham and Sara they would have a son and it did not come to pass for a while Abraham and Sara lost hope but God did deliver didn’t he? trust his timing, not your own. If God has made it clear that you are meant to be married and not to live in singleness by putting the desire of marriage in your heart it will come to pass just have faith in him even when it’s hard to and it is not always easy. Trust him know that he wants the very best for you. The devil loves to tell lies to us don’t believe him here’s why when you become a believer you accept Christ into your heart he becomes a part of you so what you feel he feels and what you see he sees he feels your pain and anger trust me but he needs you to listen to him he may be asking you to do something first before he can bring this person into your life. And only you know what that could be… if you don’t you can always ask. But he wants to make sure you are ready for the next season so ask yourself are you ready for the next season for the right reasons or is there something else that has not been cleared up that he may be asking you to clear up? also a lot of times our encounters with opposition are not always from God a lot of times we open a door to the devil to afflict us and he afflicts believers far worse than he does non believers so ask yourself what door could be open have you repented of all your sins? and sometimes even after you’ve checked yourself against the commandments and against your communication with the lord the final reason God could be allowing the devil to momentarily steal from you or afflict you is because he needs to completely make you knew again and your fighting him on it which is where I was a few days ago. I recently turned my life to the lord completely last year and I did believe in Him most of my life I just was not living for him, I was not saved, I was living like an atheist but saying that I was a believer. So there were/ are a lot of parts of myself which were/ are not of God and were formed from experience from the world i guess which could no longer be apart of me yet I was still holding on for dear life to those parts of me that were not saved and it was not till I lost everything that I finally saw what God was doing and why I was facing sm oppression he needed to strip me of who I became so that he could make me who I was born to be and I was not letting him I finally willingly let go and all oppression has ceased. so I’d say self analyze, talk to him and make sure you’ve repented of all your sins and ask him what is blocking your blessing and he will let you know in a way only you can understand. I hope this helps.

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    4. Marie

      Ask Jesus Christ for what you really need in life after you pray and repent 1st.
      I think
      You will be surprised how much more they communicate now more then ever before.
      You will get your answer in 1 to 2 days.
      Oh yea if you are mad or have any Un -forgiveness I’m your heart your MUST make up with those individuals before you ask. That’s a big big deal in the spirit world.
      Give it another chance.

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  8. uta pieper

    Your website is highly illuminating, but I think this post on oral sex is nonsense.
    I think oral sex is part of marriage, and this post might only serve to instill unnecessary
    inhibitions into people. Oral sex is part of the gift of sex that God gave to married couples.

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    2. Anonymous

      The bible says in Hebrews 13:4: Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled. For fornicators and adulterers God will judge.(NASB) So lets break this down. What does undefiled mean?. It means not made corrupt, impure, or unclean: not defiled: untainted, uncorrupted by sin. The Greek word translated “undefiled” is only used in this exact form four times in the New Testament, and it means “uncontaminated” or “set apart” this word describe Jesus Christ, our high priest. No other use of sexuality is ever condoned in Scripture. To abuse or misuse God’s gift of sex is to defile the marriage bed. A marriage bed can be defiled in several ways:
      1.) Fornication – All forms of sexuality outside a marriage union are bringing dishonor to the honorable institution of marriage.
      Examples:
      2.) Adultery: When one or both parties in a sexual union are married to someone else, God calls their sexual acts adultery. (Deuteronomy 22:22/ Leviticus 20:10/ Matthew 5:27- 32 (Also Pornography) / John 8: 1-11)
      3.) Sodomy: 1.) Anal or Oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex. 2.) copulation with the member of the same sex. 3.) Bestiality: sexual relations between a persona and an animal.
      Homosexuality and Lesbianism: (Leviticus 18:22; 20;13 / Mark 10: 6 – 9/ 1 Corinthians 6: 9 – 11; 7:2/ Romans 1:26 – 28/ Jude 1: 5 – 8/ 1 timothy 1: 8 -11)

      (1 Corinthians 6;18-19: Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in you Body.)

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      1. Anonymous

        Look dude whatever happens between a husband and wife is between both of them. Many diseases can be passed from regular vaginal sex as well so it’s not just oral or anal. If you don’t want to have oral sex then that’s fine but don’t try to stop others from enhancing their sex lives in MARRIAGE with it.

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        2. Anonymous101

          This is for true believers and followers of Jesus Christ. If you’re not a true follower Jesus Christ then maybe this forum isn’t for you. It would be best if you just leave.

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      2. mark

        3.) Sodomy: 1.) Anal or Oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.
        Please tell me where you get that definition from – or did you just make it up?

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    3. Anonymous

      Exactly, oral sex can be a blessing to married couples. God created sex not judt for procreation but for pleasure try reading SONG OF SOLOMON for a change.

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        1. factsrstubborn

          The Song of Solomon like Esther are Kabbalistic Books neither mention God. However, Solomon knew when he said “Lust had an appetite” from his almost 1000 wives he summoned succubus with according to Talmudic-Kabbalah tradition. Read 1 Kings 11.

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          1. Anonymous

            Yes but Solomon also says after all that, all the pleasures he enjoyed it, all was vanity so there’re still a lesson to be learned.

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        5. Anonymous

          I stumbled across this site looking into oral sex being a sin, so since people usually use Song of Solomon as a defense what is the meaning of ch 2:3

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      2. Anonymous101

        Bro stop deceiving yourself. Oral sex is not a blessing but a curse for married couples. The bible says that SIN is pleasurable. Don’t confuse worldly pleasures with Godly pleasures. They aren’t the same. Read: (1 john 2:15-17)

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        1. mark

          another ridiculous comment. If sIn is pleasurable then NO SEX for anyone. Are you lot incapable of critical thinking? or bringing forward logical arguments. Seem like they just spout off crap without thinking

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    4. Anonymous

      Bro, don’t be deceived. Oral sex is no a gift of sex that God gave to married couples. But totally the whole opposite. It is SIN. Oral sex is a work of the fallen nature of the flesh and demonic in nature. Your confusing Pagan practices with Godly practices concerning sex. God has set boundaries to protect the marriage bed from defilement of the flesh, spirits of lust and perversion to come into you. I know this is hard to hear because of the weakness of the flesh. Sin is pleasurable. That’s why is so hard to break and renounce. But these boundaries that God has established in marriage, was to protect the family home from immorality and uncleanness. It is not what we think is part of marriage but what God’s Words says concerning the marriage bed.

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      1. mark

        you are pretty good at writing many words, but severely lacking in proving to us that God forbids oral sex in marriage. No saying you’re wrong, but when it comes to unequivocally and unabiguously deriving your argument by citing God’s you score 0

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  9. Nell

    I agree with this article. Oral sex is a form of homosexual sex. There are more positions than missionary, but anal and oral sex are not examples of an undefiled bed. Where do people even get the idea of oral sex? Most likely porn.

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    1. Anonymous

      Oral sex is Oral sex. Whether it’s between heterosexual couples, the LGBTQ couples or bestiality.
      There is no such thing as: HOLY SODOMY. Sodomy is Sodomy whether it be with all of the above. Those that practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. This is for the true believers and followers of Christ. Not non-believers, Pagans and Gentiles.

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      1. mark

        The word sodomy comes from Sodom – I do not think the sodomites were men wanting to have oral sex with women.They were sick faggots.

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  10. Paul

    Oh God.
    I’m going to really struggle with this one. 😦
    After finding God a week ago I’m looking how to get my behaviors in line with Christian beliefs.
    This one seems like a punishment.

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    1. controversialchristian1

      Better to be honest, I agree.

      But I will say this, as with anything that we like to do, and there are many things we all struggle with, we are all sinful after all, we still have a choice.

      Do we choose God or the pleasures of this world?

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    1. Anonymous

      Look if you don’t know if it’s a sin in marriage or not, then don’t do it or do it and then ask God 2 forgive you after you do it cuz God will 4give you times 7 times 7 times 7 just in case he is NOT OK with it .. you’ll be covered on judgment day

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  12. Paul Gibbons

    Worth noting that these instructions were for the people of Isreal. God’s chosen people who at that time he instructed to go forth and multiply.
    It was a specific instruction. To a certain people. At a certain time.
    Why would a god give men penises knowing it is likely to convict every last one of us with crimes of lust an fornication.
    No one on earth is undefiled by urges of their own body.
    Thats a pretty insane standard to set people your supposed to love.
    It’s like cruel and unusual punishment.
    As a test of character. You have to love God more than hedonism.

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  13. Jonathan Paul

    What God did or didn’t design us to do plays no role in sexuality. The truth of the matter is that there’s nothing morally or ethically wrong with having oral sex, in fact it’s natural: it’s been documented that other organisms engage in it as well.

    As long as you’re safe and protected from STI/STD’s, there should be no guilt in doing it.

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  14. 황주혜

    Is using condoms in marriage demonic??? Seems like wasting sperms.. omg.. then how about wet dreams? Is that a sin even though it wasn’t intended?

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  15. 황주혜

    Is using condoms in marriage demonic??? Seems like wasting sperms.. omg.. then how about wet dreams? Is that a sin even though it wasn’t intended?

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    1. A

      condoms within marriage no i don’t think so it depends on how you interpret genesis… and Romans birth control however might be bc it does alter your cycle. wet dreams and sexual thoughts pre marital are spiritual attacks you should pray against and definitely repent for and ask God to cover your thoughts in his most precious blood that he sacrificed on the cross for our sins and salvation! masturbation is a sin as well bc you are lusting after someone who is not your spouse Mathew 5:28 “But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”

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  16. A

    I have no idea how I stumbled across this article but what was written in describing why oral sex is wrong are all half truths? if you are personally convicted that oral sex is wrong within the confides of marriage and if you’ve had a conversation with God about oral sex being wrong that’s fine.. share that instead but only putting in half truths in your article and finding partial evidence that supports you pre-concieved bias is more of an opinion based presentation than it is factually or biblically based. Bc the truth is oral sex is never specifically condemned in the bible although anal sex is and beastiality and pedophilia and buggery etc. all of those things each have their own subsect of a term in the Hebrew language (which was the first language the scriptures of the bible were written in) that essentially is defined as what we call sodomy today but specifies what type! Also the English definition of sodomy in the legal and medical aspect which essentially categorizes anything that is not procreative sex as sodomy… and that’s not 100% biblically correct… and the mere fact that these sexual acts were only coined the term sodomy from sodomite and nothing else that was abominable that the sodomites did gets that nick name is a bit biased and beyond me. And from what some of these comments say its concerning to me that the church is running based on fear now instead of consoling God and its really starting to look like the handmaids tale if most of you truly believe sex between husband and wife is only about procreation… 1corithians 6:9 doesn’t even say the word sodomy or oral sex? it says adulatory if your reading the kjv. It condemns sexual immorality and says nothing about sex within the confides of marriage. 2 you said “The fact someone opened the door to demons through the act of oral sex is pretty telling.” but people open doors to demons with sex spells and rituals that involve regular vaginal penetration all the time as well! and putting porn in their bedrooms which is clearly adultery… 3 the Merriam dictionary is a medical dictionary 4 you said “t’s common knowledge one of the most common sexual acts among homosexuals is oral copulation.” by your logic the most common sexual act among heterosexual sexually immoral people is regular vaginal penetration does that make it wrong within the confides of marriage as well bc the sexually immoral decide they want to do it? 5 I can see how you can make an argument for how anal sex goes against the natural design of our bodies but not with oral sex? the mouth is used for kissing as well as eating and talking… the mouth was even used to kiss Jesus’s feet (not in a sexual way) what im saying is there may be clear biblical condemnation for other sexually immoral sexual acts but not really for oral sex within the confides of marriage… the truth is we don’t know and won’t know if its wrong unless we ask God but biblically theres no comand that oral sex within the confides of marriage breaks?… as for diseases correlation is not causation an one can also infer STDs come from pre marital sexual immorality. ill leave yall with this 1Timothy4 1-2 “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats…”

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    2. mark

      Sodomy is the act of men having sex with men. I believe our Father defines this word, because He used it for Sodom. Should be no confusion here.

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  17. Uh

    I knew oral sex was demonic when I saw a vision of Satan while sucking someone off. If you feel tempted to suck, you gotta pray that the love of Jesus will override your sucking desire

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    2. Anonymous 101

      I saw this reality in a past porn movie I watched as a woman was giving oral to a man, her brown eyes changed to pure white. It was a manifestation of demon possession. It was a demon of lust (Sodomy) inside her lusting for his private part. Which was an open spiritual door through the sinful act of Sodomy (Oral) pleasures through the works of the flesh.

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  18. mark

    Great article and I agree with you 100 per cent. As the holy spirit has been convicting me of my sin the thought of this disgusting act crossed my mind. You are wholly correct when you say if God Intended for this act to be between a man and woman he would at least (sory for being so graphic) made it taste good. The fact of the matter is its simply one of the ways the devil has perverted sex. Just because something feels good doesn’t make it right, in fact sin is nearly always if not always pleasurable. The people who are in here defending this act in he above comments cleary love their sin more then they’d like to admit
    Uj

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      1. mark

        What I do not understand is how marriage is defined. If I go to a believer in Christ and ask him to marry me and a woman, giving vows in the presence of God, is that marriage (like Braveheart)?.That certainly would not be recognised by the authorities What if my wife is not Christian, does that invalidate the marriage in a true christian church? Does it need a certificate? Marriage nowadays is a threesome – man, woman and the state. The satanic state regulates all between the man and woman- when woman want out they go to shyster who involves the law, the state. Where is God? Does it need to be sanctioned by the satanic state?. Transdniestr Republic is not recognised by other states, so is their marriage certificate null and void?.Does a marriage certificate guarantee til death do us part or is it just a piece of paper. Or sanctioned by a state-saction satanic church like Catholic or Evangelische Kirche Bremen. Does the church have to be recognised by the state?. Or do I have to register the marriage at the state authorities before it is recognised by God. Now short-minded people will accuse me of being against marriage – probably because they cannot answer my questions.

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  21. mark

    We are told sex is only for procreation to bring fruit – so after menopause sex is verboten? A sterile man is not allowed to have sex, for it brings no fruit? And we are told that oral sex is the same thing that homosexuals do so we must not do it. So that rules out kissing too. I am really confused. Oh dear no kissing and no sex after menopause. Oh well there is always chocklate cake I suppose

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    1. intrepidsaints

      Sex is for more than procreation. Sex within marriage at any age, regardless of ability, sterility, having tubes tied or being menopausal, etc., gets the thumbs up. What is being discussed here is sexual acts that invite demon habitation within the participants. Kissing also gets the thumbs up. However, kissing can ignite other things, so it is prudent to consider it with discernment in mind. If kissing outside of marriage quickly (or uncontrollably) leads to any form of sexual sin, it would be wise to abstain from kissing. These can be very difficult areas to come to terms with because of the power of sensual desires, the (often) pull to get relief from day-to-day life, and the nature of humans to feel entitled to fulfilling earthly appetites.

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      1. Anonymous

        still waiting for your argument as to why oral sex within marriage is a sin. Please cite God’s word. I wager you find nothing- I am tired of waiting and just getting crap arguments which don’t hold up.

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      2. If sex were for more than procreation, Jesus would have partaken of it and redeemed it, but Jesus only condemned it in the flesh, condemned it by his teaching as wrong-but-tolerable and announced its coming obsolescence in eternity.
        If God wanted sex to be enjoyable, he would have made monogamy an instinctive, fleshly impulse rather than a burden to bear and a standard to hold. He would have made sexual partners’ compatibility mutually regulate by feedback loops as one actual flesh instead of two persons remaining completely independent in libido and affection.

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    1. Joshua

      Cov-2 was a created mutated virus for profit by those attempting the “pale-green” horse of pestilence of this 8th beast! If one has the mental ability they can study Dr. Ron Fauchier Rotterdam, Netherlands and his ferret experiments to cross animal-human barrier and make Cov-2 “Airborne”! This was over 12 years ago. If one has the mental ability they can research how many patents there are on Cov-2 variants!
      Look at the funding of Big Pharmakia companies like Moderna for past 20 via DARPA for mRNA research and vaccines! Cui Bono? Who benefits!

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    1. Joshua

      This generation is hell bent on justifying the things they desire to do! They have no history of Baal Peor ritual! Those thinking there are no risks in oral sex need to research the biggest cause of throat cancer. Mike Douglas even admitted this was the cause of his throat cancer. Baal Peor “opening of the hole”! Farrah Faucet’s anal cancer was from anal sex. She admitted it herself.

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      1. 300yardsinfairway

        Baal Peor worship was, like many other pagan “gods”, centered around fertility. I bet they had vaginal intercourse too.

        As for cancer risks from oral and anal sex, only 13 strands of the 200 or so HPV virus have a cancer risk associated. There should be minimal risk to a monogamous married couple and, presumably, you would agree there is no risk and applicability for a monogamous married couple that has confirmed no presence of HPV?

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  24. Anonymous

    Oral sex is sin ? why? sodomites did it. ok so was penetrative sex so welp no more of that then….I should stop using my kitchen knives too because Jason used it to kill campers……

    havent you guy think thAT MAYBE THE REASON wHY GOD was angry with the sodomites was what they were using the sexual gestures to do and not necessary the specific sexual gesture ?? becauise the sodomites used alot of regular sexual gestures to have sex, why because its sex, THE GESTURE WAS THE ISSUE IS WAS WHAT THEY WERE USING SEX TO DO WHICH WAS RAPE FORNICATE CHEAT ETC…..

    A knife isnt sin in essence, if i used a knife to cut meat , im labelled has a butcher, but it i used it to kill im labelled has a murderer. nth is wrong with the knife, y’all attacking the wrong thing. and which your LOgic let us all might has well ban kitchen knifes

    just has how murders are called murderer because of what they used guns and knives to do, the same apply for the sodomites because what they used sex to do

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  25. Anonymous

    This entire website is a schizophrenic wet dream, justified supposedly by the ramblings of a jew book. I have hated christ insanity for a long time and I’m glad I’m an Odinist (you know, a religion for actual adults) and follow a EUROPEAN religion instead of some middle east nonsense. Holy cow, have you people literally lost any mind you had. I remember that psycho feminist Dworkin thought anything oral was a no-no, not that it would have mattered because no one would touch her with a 50-foot pole and she was obviously mad about that.

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  26. Let The Truth Be Known

    Just take a good look how very evil and rotten God is today since he is working with these low life loser liberals to destroy our America now. And with so much crime misery sicknesses that we have in this world right now which God the filthy scumbag is really out to hurt many of us good innocent people today for no reason at all and wants us to suffer badly. So what in the world did we do wrong anyway when there are so many rotten and horrible people causing crime and destroying other people businesses as it is? God you fucking retarded fool wake the hell up since you should be punishing them and not us.

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  29. 300yardsinfairway

    Full Disclosure: I found this site from Google and I do not know the exact persuasion of the author and what point of view he is coming from. This appears to be Charismatic, but the doctrine seems to be Catholic, from what I am gathering. I am neither.

    The Scriptural arguments cited are incredibly weak. 2 Cor 7:1 in this context is completely subjective and reflects the author’s opinions, I believe. Why are genitals filthy? You can do filthy things with them, as you can with your mind or heart, for that matter. Nothing about my wife is filthy to me. Her and her body are beautiful and wonderfully made, in their entirety. To suggest that any part of her is something I should find filthy is flat-out offensive. Most believers would conclude that “filthiness” and “immorality” refers to things such as allowing exposure to inappropriate environments or material and allowing sexual temptation to enter.

    The use of Merriam-Webster dictionary, as any authority, is truly bizarre. Sure the word “sodomy” has its roots in the word “Sodom”, given the historical reference to sex between men. As to how the contemporary definition came to reference anything between heterosexual couples is unknown, but most Biblical scholars agree the issue commonly referenced in Sodom and Gomorrah was same-sex relations. Did they have oral sex? Probably, but I bet they kissed and held hands too. Even your reference above to Strong’s focuses entirely on same-sex relations, not particulars of their activity. Now, if you are Catholic and you accept references and teaching outside of Scripture to be equal in authority to Scripture, then I understand the inclusion of a modern dictionary, though I completely disagree that theology and that anything is comparable to Scripture. That, as cited evidence, and the emphasis in comments on procreation reek of Catholic teaching.

    Romans 1:26-27 discusses same-sex relations, in the context of God’s wrath, again referring back to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Most would simply conclude that the underlying message is the natural relationship is for a man to be with a woman, and obviously vice versa, not particulars of intimacy. Again, holding hands and kissing aren’t procreative, but they sure are natural to most.

    You state, with a very self-righteous undertone, that “there are self-proclaimed Christians that would defend the oral sex act.” True, probably 95%+ of believers, at least those under age 75, wouldn’t put this as an issue on their radar and leave it to individual couples. You state that mouths weren’t meant for genitals. Why? Is there difficulty, anatomically, in such? We are made, designed by God, and you have studies that have shown diminished instances (though not real significant in percentages) of preeclampsia in women that have swallowed semen during pregnancy. To say that mouths are not supposed to be on genitals, within the obvious context of marriage, is absolutely opinion. The exact same for the loaded terms that follow: debasing, animalistic, perverted, etc.

    Your points on STDs are medically sound, although I struggle to see how they are relevant to a monogamous, married couple, particularly STD free. My wife and I have never had STD tests and we have been married for six years. We did both have limited sex partners in our younger years, prior to our meeting and subsequent marriage. We do not concern ourselves with STDs, do not use condoms, and willingly assume whatever small risks we have, certainly at this point in our life together. If one of us has an STD (seemingly unlikely) we will give it to the other, whether through vaginal or other form of intercourse, and that is just a consequence of earlier sins. I wouldn’t change anything about being with her.

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    1. “Why are genitals filthy? You can do filthy things with them, as you can with your mind or heart, for that matter.”

      It’s filthy if the person has bad hygiene. But I think you mean filthy in an inherent sense. I don’t think genitals inherently filthy. I never said that. The act itself is filthy, as all perverse sexual acts are filthy.

      I’m curious, since cunnilingus and fellatio is not a sin to you, what about anilingus? What about incorporating sex toys, “fisting”, “golden showers,” or “facials” in the marriage bed? Are there any sexual acts between a husband and a wife that can defile the marriage bed to you? Is anything permissible between a consenting husband and wife in God’s eyes?

      “You state that mouths weren’t meant for genitals. Why? Is there difficulty, anatomically, in such?”

      I would assume because a woman has teeth can be a painful experience for a man to receive fellatio. It’s a very sensitive organ.

      “We are made, designed by God, and you have studies that have shown diminished instances (though not real significant in percentages) of preeclampsia in women that have swallowed semen during pregnancy.”

      I Googled it and I only found one Dutch study, albeit an outdated one (2000), that makes such a claim.

      Another study (2014) reads that “Preeclampsia risk decreased significantly with increasing vaginal exposure to paternal semen” but “Oral seminal fluid exposure was not associated with a reduced risk of preeclampsia.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24011785/

      This reaffirms my belief that God designed semen to belong inside a man’s wife’s vagina.

      Since Jesus is the Truth and the One we ought to imitate, do you think if Jesus got married 2000 years ago, He would allow His wife to perform fellatio on Him?

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        J. Williams, thanks for your quick reply and thoughts. I disagree with your conclusions, but I’m not here to just troll and antagonize. I love debate in general and I hope I don’t offend or cross any lines.

        “It’s filthy if the person has bad hygiene. But I think you mean filthy in an inherent sense. I don’t think genitals inherently filthy. I never said that. The act itself is filthy, as all perverse sexual acts are filthy.”

        I had assumed you meant filthy in an inherent sense. Of course a person could have hygiene issues, in which case his/her spouse might struggle with other affection such as hugs or kisses, or simply decide to not be bothered by such, due to strong love for the spouse. My wife and I always start our days together with kissing even before we brush our teeth. Some wouldn’t want to. To each their own.

        That said, you finished by calling the act filthy and perverse. How is this anything more than opinion? What makes this pleasing act perverse? It’s not as if we neglect conventional intercourse. We have done, for lack of a better description, “exclusively oral” lovemaking sessions in the past, but at least 90% of the time, it’s merely foreplay. What is being cheated, denied or deprived in our lovelife? You, and some others in other replies (I haven’t read all) have strongly emphasized the procreative aspect of sex. We are hoping to get pregnant again. If anything, the stimulation from fellatio increases the odds I can finish (I have sporadic ED issues at times) and her heightened arousal can only increase our odds too. I’m just really struggling to comprehend the logic in our situation.

        “I’m curious, since cunnilingus and fellatio is not a sin to you, what about anilingus? What about incorporating sex toys, “fisting”, “golden showers,” or “facials” in the marriage bed? Are there any sexual acts between a husband and a wife that can defile the marriage bed to you? Is anything permissible between a consenting husband and wife in God’s eyes?”

        That’s a massive amount to unpack, but I’ll do my best to give my views. Basically, I hold the view similar to the vast majority of believers that if it is mutually consensual without undue coercion, done with love and affection, and does not pose a significant risk of bodily harm, it’s up to each couple. Now, usually I want to vomit when I hear someone say “what’s right for me may not be right for you” because it’s, 9 times out of 10, someone just attempting to justify something highly suspect about their own life or actions. However, that actually has some application in this area. If two different wives feel very differently about the appeal and pleasure of oral sex (or most anything else) and their respective husbands understand their wives’ views, then a request for such affection could be reasonable in one scenario, but inconsiderate or selfish within the other situation.

        I see no logical, and there is certainly no definitive Biblical (only a subjective opinion on how one defines “perverse” and like terms) , reason why the act of oral sex is inherently sinful. However, it could be in a relationship based on the criteria I outlined in the above paragraph. The act of vaginal sex could be too. Someone pressuring his wife for vaginal intercourse if she is in discomfort, or let’s say soon after childbirth, isn’t seeking a “perverse” act, but is certainly not treating his wife as he should.

        You asked, so here goes. Analingus? There are a lot of sensitive nerves in the area. Why would it necessarily be sinful IF, and I want to qualify it must be IF, the aforementioned criteria are fulfilled? It might be appealing to only a small minority, and I get that, but if it falls within the criteria I don’t see what would make it inherently sinful. It would be beyond common sense that you would want to be hygienic, probably by showering immediately prior, but what other concerns would there be in any and all situations? In all likelihood, the worst thing that could possibly happen as far as bodily harm, might be a mild stomach bug from bacteria. That’s up to a couple if they opt to assume that risk. Obviously, from the criteria, it should not be done in any demeaning way, so I don’t see it as a popular activity for most couples, but that’s their business. Incorporating sex toys is something I would have a different opinion (key word) on, and it’s situational. Of course, you could have disability issues with a couple and I would never tell a couple in such a situation that they cannot do what works in their circumstances. For most other situations, I think solo toys remove the partner from the act. Is it necessarily sinful if the other partner is not deprived of his/her frequency for affection? I don’t know, but I don’t like the idea and we won’t go there in our marriage. My wife has a friend that says her husband lasts an extraordinary amount of time, but she cannot climax without a vibrator. If I were in that situation, I don’t know how I would feel about that, but I wouldn’t like not being able to satisfy my wife by my own means. I would certainly would want her to discuss with her doctor and perhaps therapist to see if she can restore some sensation. In our own marriage, the extra items we have are things that are only used in our lovemaking to each other, like lingerie, position pillows, etc. An additional concern I personally would have about toys would be, if a couple did want to incorporate, they might be difficult to procure outside of a source that profits from the smut film industry. Fisting? In theory, there is no difference between a finger and the whole set…if that is preferred by BOTH partners. How many women get genuine pleasure from that and desire it to be done to them? Surely not more than 1 in 10K, so we’re really getting into the weeds here. Of course, it would be sinful to force or coerce that upon your wife if it caused her traumatic pain and discomfort, which it would for almost anyone. Golden showers or facials? Medically there is no concern. I mean, in the unlikely scenario that both partners love and are enthused by the idea, then it wouldn’t matter, IMO, by we’ve really drifted off into niche activities at this point. For every couple that BOTH genuinely enjoy some of these things, there has to be several hundred that BOTH genuinely enjoy oral sex. It’s hardly worth discussing, but fair conversation and I didn’t dodge the question. What would defile a marriage for certain? The first thing I can think of is sexual activity that does not fit with the criteria I have stated above, any act, even vaginal intercourse if it doesn’t fall in line with that. The second thing would be bringing in 3rd party individuals to the marriage, the prime sin of Corinth.

        “I would assume because a woman has teeth can be a painful experience for a man to receive fellatio. It’s a very sensitive organ.”

        Well then surely no man would desire it, so what the point of even bringing up fellatio? In reality, there might be a learning curve for most, just as it might take a little time to feel comfortable in having vaginal intercourse, or most anything else. I can’t think of any pain or anatomical issues with cunnilingus.

        It is comical to read people with such a strong aversion that act as though people like my wife and I are “taking one for the team” or falling on our swords, doing something we personally find repulsive, just for the pleasure of the partner. That couldn’t be further from the truth. I personally have a preference for giving, over receiving. It is blissful to feel and hear my wife’s pleasure and it is an amazing experience whether she happens to reciprocate at that time or not. She has expressed similar thoughts to me in our discussions. Somewhere in the comments above someone said that women hate performing this. Then it is strange that I have been woken up from my sleep by them.

        “I Googled it and I only found one Dutch study, albeit an outdated one (2000), that makes such a claim.

        Another study (2014) reads that “Preeclampsia risk decreased significantly with increasing vaginal exposure to paternal semen” but “Oral seminal fluid exposure was not associated with a reduced risk of preeclampsia.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24011785/

        This reaffirms my belief that God designed semen to belong inside a man’s wife’s vagina.”

        I recall finding some additional data, but readily admit it’s a fairly weak association or benefit. What about 2000 makes it outdated? Did we evolve since then? I’m not an evolutionist. As for benefit from vaginal intercourse, I had not heard that one before, but we did both during our pregnancy.

        “Since Jesus is the Truth and the One we ought to imitate, do you think if Jesus got married 2000 years ago, He would allow His wife to perform fellatio on Him?”

        I feel the heebie jeebies just even remotely going there, but I know you’re not asking in any derogatory context like a couple of the trolls. I don’t think I would feel any fewer heebie jeebies if the subject matter was vaginal intercourse. IF, in the bizarre scenario where the savior came to sacrifice His life, but for some reason opted for a marriage relationship, I would assume He would show affection to His bride in whatever form they both desired and were comfortable with. The scenario is bizarre to contemplate, unless one accepts the laughable “gospel of Judas” as far as a marriage. The oral sex portion you put forward literally did nothing to change anything or make me take a step back. The sex act isn’t relevant, IMO. I don’t find anything gross or off putting in the least about the act. Others personally do, and that is totally fine and understandable for them.

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        1. “That said, you finished by calling the act filthy and perverse. How is this anything more than opinion? What makes this pleasing act perverse? It’s not as if we neglect conventional intercourse. We have done, for lack of a better description, “exclusively oral” lovemaking sessions in the past, but at least 90% of the time, it’s merely foreplay. What is being cheated, denied or deprived in our lovelife? You, and some others in other replies (I haven’t read all) have strongly emphasized the procreative aspect of sex. We are hoping to get pregnant again. If anything, the stimulation from fellatio increases the odds I can finish (I have sporadic ED issues at times) and her heightened arousal can only increase our odds too. I’m just really struggling to comprehend the logic in our situation.”

          What makes the act of oral sex perverse? It goes against the intended use or purpose of your genitals in the realm of sexuality. That’s how I can reason having relations with a blow-up doll, a corpse, or even one’s hand is also a perverse sexual act as it goes against God’s will for one’s body. It’s as self-evident as the existence of God is evident through creation.

          As the Bible reads, “Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.” – Rom. 6:13

          And where does one even learn about oral sex? It’s usually learned from pornography, which is of satan’s kingdom.

          I’m curious, do you even believe masturbation is sin? If yes, why? I would love to read your explanation to why a man stroking his own penis for pleasure is sin, as opposed to his wife stroking his penis for pleasure.

          “You asked, so here goes. Analingus? There are a lot of sensitive nerves in the area. Why would it necessarily be sinful IF, and I want to qualify it must be IF, the aforementioned criteria are fulfilled? It might be appealing to only a small minority, and I get that, but if it falls within the criteria I don’t see what would make it inherently sinful. It would be beyond common sense that you would want to be hygienic, probably by showering immediately prior, but what other concerns would there be in any and all situations? In all likelihood, the worst thing that could possibly happen as far as bodily harm, might be a mild stomach bug from bacteria.”

          You actually believe that God would bless the act of analingus in the marriage bed? Wow!

          What about sodomizing your wife? Do you think God would be okay with such an act given the criteria you provided? Or how about your wife sodomizing you with a sex toy?

          Do you really don’t think God has boundaries between a husband and wife in the marriage bed outside the criteria you provided?

          “Fisting? In theory, there is no difference between a finger and the whole set…if that is preferred by BOTH partners. How many women get genuine pleasure from that and desire it to be done to them? Surely not more than 1 in 10K, so we’re really getting into the weeds here. Of course, it would be sinful to force or coerce that upon your wife if it caused her traumatic pain and discomfort, which it would for almost anyone.”

          Interesting. You’re a Christian and think God would be okay with “fisting.”

          “Golden showers or facials? Medically there is no concern. I mean, in the unlikely scenario that both partners love and are enthused by the idea, then it wouldn’t matter, IMO, by we’ve really drifted off into niche activities at this point. For every couple that BOTH genuinely enjoy some of these things, there has to be several hundred that BOTH genuinely enjoy oral sex. It’s hardly worth discussing, but fair conversation and I didn’t dodge the question. What would defile a marriage for certain?”

          So Christians who are supposed to be holy and pure ( (1 Peter 1:15–16;1 John 3:3; Titus 2:5), it’s perfectly fine for them to engage in “facials” and “golden showers” (given the criteria you provided)?

          Do you really think the angels and God watching would give a thumbs up to such an act? Serious question.

          “Well then surely no man would desire it, so what the point of even bringing up fellatio? In reality, there might be a learning curve for most, just as it might take a little time to feel comfortable in having vaginal intercourse, or most anything else. I can’t think of any pain or anatomical issues with cunnilingus.”

          A learning curve to know how to give fellatio, so your teeth won’t get in the way of harming the person… It’s as if one’s mouth wasn’t designed to be there.

          “I recall finding some additional data, but readily admit it’s a fairly weak association or benefit. What about 2000 makes it outdated? Did we evolve since then? I’m not an evolutionist. As for benefit from vaginal intercourse, I had not heard that one before, but we did both during our pregnancy.”

          Any study that is older than 10 years is dated.

          “I feel the heebie jeebies just even remotely going there, but I know you’re not asking in any derogatory context like a couple of the trolls. I don’t think I would feel any fewer heebie jeebies if the subject matter was vaginal intercourse. IF, in the bizarre scenario where the savior came to sacrifice His life, but for some reason opted for a marriage relationship, I would assume He would show affection to His bride in whatever form they both desired and were comfortable with. The scenario is bizarre to contemplate, unless one accepts the laughable “gospel of Judas” as far as a marriage. The oral sex portion you put forward literally did nothing to change anything or make me take a step back. The sex act isn’t relevant, IMO. I don’t find anything gross or off putting in the least about the act. Others personally do, and that is totally fine and understandable for them.”

          Yeah, I seriously doubt the Creator incarnate if married would have incorporated fellatio, cunnilingus, “facials,” “golden showers,” sex toys, analingus, “69,” in the marriage bed. In fact, I believe He would have been against it. I believe kinks are of twisted and are of satan’s kingdom. What spirit do you think is really behind such acts? I can’t imagine the Spirit of the living God behind such perverse acts.

          I can be wrong, but it seems to me you have been heavily influenced by pornography. That’s not a good thing. Leave that baggage behind if you’re a Christian.

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