Praying to Mary, Having Mary Idols, and Bowing to Them Is An Abomination To God

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What does God want people to do with these graven images?

But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. Deut. 7:5

Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands. Micah 5:13

And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. Deut. 12:3

The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God. Deut. 7:25

Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places: Num. 33:52

A demonstration of how it can be done:

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Jesus taught us how to pray. He never taught to pray to Mary or saints:

Matt. 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

John 14
3And I will do whatever you ask in My name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.…

Luke 11
1One day in a place where Jesus had just finished praying, one of His disciples requested, “Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples.” 2So Jesus told them, “When you pray say: ‘Father, hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.…

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Isaiah 57:13
13 When you cry out,
Let your collection of idols deliver you.
But the wind will carry them all away,
A breath will take them.
But he who puts his trust in Me shall possess the land,
And shall inherit My holy mountain.”

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Deuteronomy Chapter 4 reads:

“16 Lest ye corrupt [yourselves], and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, 17 The likeness of any beast that [is] on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air, 18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that [is] in the waters beneath the earth: 19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, [even] all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.”

Exodus Chapter 20 reads”
“4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;”

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Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up [any] image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I [am] the LORD your God.” (Leviticus 26:1)

Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.” (Acts 17:29)

But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to [the image of] Baal.” (Romans 11:4)

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Idolatry, according to Webster, is “the worship of idols or excessive devotion to, or reverence for some person or thing.” Carrying around Mary idols, bowing down towards Mary idols, burning incense for Mary idols, and praying to Mary idols is IDOLATRY by definition. The very definition of worship according to the Bible is to bow down. So when Roman Catholic idolaters are bowing down, no matter how they try to justify it, is IDOLATRY.

◄ 4352. proskuneó ►

Strong’s Concordance

proskuneó: to do reverence to

Original Word: προσκυνέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: proskuneó
Phonetic Spelling: (pros-koo-neh’-o)
Short Definition: I worship
Definition: I go down on my knees to, do obeisance to, worship.

◄ 7812. shachah ►

Strong’s Concordance

shachah: to bow down

Original Word: שָׁחָה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shachah
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-khaw’)
Short Definition: worship

NAS Exhaustive Concordance

Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
to bow down
NASB Translation
bow (5), bow ourselves down (1), bow yourselves down (1), bow down (21), bowed (16), bowed in worship (1), bowed themselves down (2), bowed down (14), bowing (1), bowing down (1), bows down (1), did homage (1), down in homage (1), homage (1), lie down (1), paid homage (3), prostrate (2), prostrated (13), prostrating (1), weighs it down (1), worship (47), worshiped (31), worshiping (3), worships (2).

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How many mediators are there?

“5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Timothy 2:5)

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55 Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren [brothers], James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?” (Matthew 13:55-56)

46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.” (Matthew 12:46-50; also in Mark 3:31-35; Luke 8:19-21)

1After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren [brothers], and his disciples: and they continued there not many days. (John 2:12).

His brethren [brothers] therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest. For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.For neither did his brethren [brothers] believe in him.” (John 7:3-5)

14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren [brothers]” (Acts 1:4).

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord’s brother” (Galatians 1:18-19).

Have we not power to eat and to drink? Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?” (1 Corinthians 9:4-5).

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Not one Bible verse reads one should seek to have a relationship with Mary, directly come to Mary, do anything for Mary, love Mary, or pray to Mary.

However, numerous Bible verses read that one should seek to have a relationship with Jesus, directly come to Jesus, be willing to do everything and anything for Jesus, love Jesus, and pray to Jesus.

The Roman Catholic pagan demonic idolatrous cult that is deceiving many teaches otherwise. However, God’s word stands and will never pass away.

The Bible focuses on Jesus (John 5:39). How does one’s relationship with Christ affect his position before God?

Gal 3:26- “For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.”

1 John 5:12- “He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.”

Should a Christian come directly to Jesus?

Matt 11:28-30-“Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

John 5:39-40-“You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me, that you may have life.”

John 6:35-“I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

John 6:37-“All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.”

John 6:44-“No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws him”

John 6:45-“Every one who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.”

John 7:37-38-Now on the last day, the great [day] of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water'”.

John 12:32-“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

John 14:6-Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.”

Heb 13:13-let us go forth to him [Jesus] outside the camp…

1 Pet 2:25-For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd [Jesus] and Overseer of your souls.

Can one know Jesus personally?

John 14:21-“I [Jesus] will love him, and will disclose Myself to him.”

John 17:3-“this is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.”

Phil 3:10-that I may know Him, and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings…

How much should a Christian love Jesus?

Matt 20:37-“He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.”

Eph 6:24-Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ with a love incorruptible.

Phil 1:21-For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

What must a Christian be willing to do for Jesus?

Matt 16:25-“whoever loses his life for My sake shall find it.”

Phil 3:8-Indeed I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as refuse, in order that I may gain Christ.

How close of a personal relationship should a Christian have with Jesus?

John 14:23-“We will come to him, and make Our abode with him.”

John 15:4-5-“Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me…apart from me you can do nothing.” (Compare with Isaiah 60:21)

John 17:23-“I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me.”

Rom 13:14-But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh…

1 Cor 1:9-you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

1 Cor 6:16,17-“The two will become one flesh.” But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit.”

2 Cor 12:9-I will rather boast about my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may dwell in me.

2 Cor 13:5-Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you…

Gal 2:20-I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Gal 3:27-For as many of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Gal 4:6-And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”

Gal 4:19-My little children, with whom I am again in travail until Christ be formed in you!

Eph 3:16-17-that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man; so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith…

Eph 4:15-we are to grow up in all [aspects] into Him, who is the head, [even] Christ.

Phil 4:7-And the peace of God, which passes all understanding, will keep your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Col 2:6-As therefore you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so live in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith.

Col 2:10-in Him you have been made complete…

Col 3:11-Christ is all, and in all.

1 Pet 3:15-sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts…

1 John 1:3-our fellowship is with…His son Jesus Christ.

Rev 3:20-Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any one hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him, and will dine with him, and he with Me.

Is it proper to pray to Jesus?

John 14:14 – “If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Acts 7:59-60- “And they went on stoning Stephen as he called upon [the Lord] and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” And falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” And having said this, he fell asleep.”

Acts 9:14-“and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call upon thy [Jesus’-vs. 17] name.”

Acts 9:20-21- “and immediately he [Saul] [began] to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, saying, “He is the Son of God.” And all those hearing him continued to be amazed, saying, “Is this not he who in Jerusalem destroyed those who called on this name, and [who] had come here for the purpose of bringing them bound before the chief priests?””

Acts 22:16-“Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His [Jesus’] name.”

Acts 22:17-19-“And it came about when I returned to Jerusalem and was praying…I saw Him [Jesus] saying to me…And I said ‘Lord…'”

Rom 10:9,11-13- “confess Jesus as Lord…For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed”…the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call upon Him; for “Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved.””

1 Cor 1:2- “to the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their [Lord] and ours:”

2 Cor 12:8-9- “Three times I besought the Lord about this, that it should leave me; but he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” I will all the more gladly boast of my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.”

1 Ti 1:12- “I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me…”

Rev 22:20- “Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!”

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Mary uttered these words, but why would she have a savior if she was supposedly without sin? Also, Luke 2:22-24 (Cf. Leviticus 12), reads that Mary sacrificed two turtle doves as a sin offering to make atonement.

Scriptures that suggest that Mary did sin:

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all” – Isaiah 53:6

“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” – Isaiah 64:6

For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” – Ecclesiastes 7:20

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” – Romans 3:10-12

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” – Romans 3:23

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” – 1 John 1:8-10

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According to the scriptures, God is a jealous God, so why would He want people to pray to, worship, or venerate other people? It is written, He will not give His glory to another nor praise to graven images (Isaiah 42:8).

There is no Biblical support for Mary being the Advocate, Helper, and Mediatrix (CCC 969), having no original sin (CCC 508), never committed sin (CCC 493), who brings us the gifts of eternal salvation (CCC 969), in her, the church is holy (CCC 867), who “delivers our souls from death” (CCC 966), that “Mary is the Church’s model of faith and charity” (CCC 967), that we “pray to her” (CCC 2679), and we can “entrust all our cares and petitions to her” (CCC 2677). In fact, many of these Roman Catholics squarely contradict the scriptures!

If a person truly believes the Roman Catholic Church is the true Church, I challenge one to show that such doctrines and practices of Rome are found in scripture.

Mary is also called “Mother of God…” (CCC 2677), which is emphasized by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox. Technically, Mary did give birth to Jesus, who is God, but interestingly, nowhere in the Bible did Jesus ever call Mary His mother. In fact, He addressed her as “woman” (John 2:4; 19:26). It is as if God knew that Mary would be more likely to be idolized and exalted if He referenced her as His mother.

Jesus said that any woman who does the will of His Father is His mother:

“46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, ‘Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.’48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, ‘Who is My mother and who are My brothers?’ 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, ‘Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and MOTHER(Matthew 12:46-50; also in Luke 8:19-21 & Mark 3:31-35).

Since that is the case, why is Mary emphasized as “the Mother of God” when Jesus can have multiple mothers?

Moreover, it is emphasized that Mary is blessed. Though she is indeed blessed (Luke 1:48), Jesus taught that those who hear the word of God and keep it are blessed:

“27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it” (Luke 11:27-28).

The Second Council of Nicæa (787) is recognized as the last of the first seven ecumenical councils by the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church. They stated:

“(15) If anyone shall not confess the Holy Ever-Virgin Mary, truly and properly the Mother of God, to be higher than every creature whether visible or invisible, and does not with sincere faith seek her intercessions as of one having confidence in her access to our God, since she bore him, let him be anathema.” (source)

This is not true. Jesus said that there is no one greater than John the Baptist (Matthew 11:11).

What the Bible says about idolaters:

Rev. 21:8  – “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”


Addendum

The historical record suggests that the early Church was essentially aniconic (avoiding images). Early apologists did not merely ignore images; they defined Christianity by their absence. They argued that because God is Spirit, any material representation was a step toward the ‘mechanical coarseness’ of paganism:

The early apologist, Marcus Minucius Felix (died c. 250), in his dialogue Octavius, noted the absence of images as a distinguishing feature of Christianity.

A pagan character accuses Christians:

Why have they no altars, no temples, no acknowledged images?” (Octavius)

The Christian defender does not deny this but argues that God is invisible and needs no material representations.

Lactantius (c. 250-c. 325) wrote:

“What madness is it, then, either to form those objects which they themselves may afterwards fear, or to fear the things which they have formed? But, they say, we do not fear the images themselves, but those beings after whose likeness they were formed, and to whose names they are dedicated. You fear them doubtless on this account, because you think that they are in heaven; for if they are gods, the case cannot be otherwise. Why, then, do you not raise your eyes to heaven, and, invoking their names, offer sacrifices in the open air? Why do you look to walls, and wood, and stone, rather than to the place where you believe them to be? What is the meaning of temples and altars? What, in short, of the images themselves, which are memorials either of the dead or absent?” (The Divine Institutes, Ch. 2) 

“… [I]t is an inexpiable crime to desert the living in order that you may serve memorials of the dead, who can neither give life nor light to any one, for they are themselves without it: and that there is no other God but one, to whose judgment and power every soul is subject. [T]he sacred images themselves, to which most senseless men do service, are destitute of all perception, since they are earth. But who cannot understand that it is unlawful for an upright animal to bend itself that it may adore the earth? which is placed beneath our feet for this purpose, that it may be trodden upon, and not adored by us, who have been raised from it, and have received an elevated position beyond the other living creatures, that we may not turn ourselves again downward, nor cast this heavenly countenance to the earth, but may direct our eyes [upward] to that quarter to which the condition of their nature has directed, and that we may adore and worship nothing except the single deity of our only Creator and Father, who made man of an erect figure, that we may know that we are called forth to high and heavenly things. . . . But if it appears that these religious rites are vain in so many ways as I have shown, it is manifest that those who either make prayers to the dead, or venerate the earth, or make over their souls to unclean spirits, do not act as becomes men, and that they will suffer punishment for their impiety and guilt, who, rebelling against God, the Father of the human race, have undertaken inexpiable rites, and violated every sacred law… Wherefore it is undoubted that there is no religion wherever there is an image. For if religion consists of divine things, and there is nothing divine except in heavenly things; it follows that images are without religion, because there can be nothing heavenly in that which is made from the earth.” (The Divine Institutes, Ch. 19)

Clement of Alexandria (c. 150 – c. 215) wrote:

“But it is clear to every one that piety, which teaches to worship and honour, is the highest and oldest cause; and the law itself exhibits justice, and teaches wisdom, by abstinence from sensible images” (The Stromata (Book II), Ch. 18)

“It were indeed ridiculous, as the philosophers themselves say, for man, the plaything of God, to make God, and for God to be the plaything of art; since what is made is similar and the same to that of which it is made, as that which is made of ivory is ivory, and that which is made of gold golden. Now the images and temples constructed by mechanics are made of inert matter; so that they too are inert, and material, and profane; and if you perfect the art, they partake of mechanical coarseness. Works of art cannot then be sacred and divine. (The Stromata (Book VII), Ch. 5)

Tertullian (c. 155 AD – after 220) wrote:

“God prohibits an idol as much to be made as to be worshipped. In so far as the making what may be worshipped is the prior act, so far is the prohibition to make (if the worship is unlawful) the prior prohibition. For this cause— the eradicating, namely, of the material of idolatry— the divine law proclaims, You shall make no idol; and by conjoining, Nor a similitude of the things which are in the heaven, and which are in the earth, and which are in the sea, has interdicted the servants of God from acts of that kind all the universe over.” (On Idolatry, Ch. 4)

Arnobius  (died c. 330) wrote:

“For you are here in the habit of fastening upon us a very serious charge of impiety because we do not rear temples for the ceremonies of worship, do not set up statues and images of any god, do not build altars, do not offer the blood of creatures slain in sacrifices, incense, nor sacrificial meal, and finally, do not bring wine flowing in libations from sacred bowls; which, indeed, we neglect to build and do, not as though we cherish impious and wicked dispositions, or have conceived any madly desperate feeling of contempt for the gods, but because we think and believe that they—if only they are true gods, and are called by this exalted name—either scorn such honours, if they give way to scorn, or endure them with anger, if they are roused by feelings of rage.” (Against the Heathen (Book VI))

Origen (c. 185 – c. 253) wrote:

“It is not therefore true that we object to building altars, statues, and temples, because we have agreed to make this the badge of a secret and forbidden society; but we do so, because we have learnt from Jesus Christ the true way of serving God, and we shrink from whatever, under a pretence of piety, leads to utter impiety those who abandon the way marked out for us by Jesus Christ.” (Contra Celsum, Book VIII, Ch. 20)

Hippolytus (c. 170 – c. 235) wrote:

“And [the Carpocratian heretics] make counterfeit images of Christ, alleging that these were in existence at the time (during which our Lord was on earth, and that they were fashioned) by Pilate.” (Refutation of All Heresies (Book VII), Ch. 20)

Irenaeus (c. 125 – c. 202) wrote:

“[The Carpocratian heretics] also possess images, some of them painted, and others formed from different kinds of material; while they maintain that a likeness of Christ was made by Pilate at that time when Jesus lived among them. They crown these images, and set them up along with the images of the philosophers of the world that is to say, with the images of Pythagoras, and Plato, and Aristotle, and the rest. They have also other modes of honouring these images, after the same manner of the Gentiles.”

(Against Heresies (Book I, Ch. 25))

He also prohibited praying to angels; he said all our prayers should be directed to the Lord:

Nor does she [the Church] perform anything by means of angelic invocations, or by incantations, or by any other wicked curious art; but, directing her prayers to the Lord, who made all things, in a pure, sincere, and straightforward spirit, and calling upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, she has been accustomed to work miracles for the advantage of mankind, and not to lead them into error.” (Against Heresies (Book II, Ch. 32))

If icon-veneration were an Apostolic tradition, why does Irenaeus—a student of Polycarp, who was a student of the Apostle John—list the “honoring of images” as a mark of a heretical cult rather than a mark of the Church?

Also, the Council of Elvira (c. 300–314 AD, Spain), a local synod, explicitly prohibited images in churches. It is purportedly the earliest known council decree on the subject of church art, which makes its prohibition even more significant—it’s the first time the Church felt the need to make a formal rule about it.

Canon 36 states:

“There shall be no pictures in churches, lest what is worshipped and adored be depicted on walls.” (source)

Why is there not a single document from the first 300 years where a Christian leader defends the use of icons against Pagan critics? Every other “weird” Christian practice (the Trinity, not sacrificing to Caesar) was defended in writing. The use of icons was never defended because it likely wasn’t being practiced.

The cumulative evidence from the first three centuries reveals a “theological silence” regarding images that is impossible to ignore. From the apologies of Minucius Felix to the strict canons of Elvira, the early Christians did not merely lack icons; they defined their worship in direct opposition to the “materiality” of the surrounding Pagan world. By identifying the veneration of images as a trait of Gnostic heretics (as Irenaeus did) and labeling the depiction of the Divine as “mechanical coarseness” (as Clement did), the early Church established a clear boundary: God is Spirit, and He is to be worshipped in spirit and truth, not through the “inert matter” of earthly art. This period demonstrates that for the very early Church, the absence of icons was not a lack of resources, but a deliberate theological conviction.


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11 thoughts on “Praying to Mary, Having Mary Idols, and Bowing to Them Is An Abomination To God

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  2. Concorde Théologale's avatar Concorde Théologale

    Did You read the Gospel according to Saint Luke ?

    “Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with Thee” : Luke 1, 28

    “Blessed are You amongst women, and blessed is the Fruit of Thy womb Jesus” : Luke 1, 42

    Holy Mary,

    “Mother of God” (Yes, because Jesus Is God and remains God even when he comes into the humain nature),

    “pray for us sinners” (we are all sinners),

    “now and on the hour of our death, Amen” (we are only asking here a prayer !)

    Concerning sex with Saint Joseph, the acknowledgement of the miracle-based arrival of Jesus through Mary undoubtedly prevented both of them to accept lust in their lives even after Jesus was born. If they had sex after, it would mean that their religious conscience were so pagan, which is not the case.

    Concerning John the Baptist, even though he is the greatest son of a woman, only Mary is said to be “full of grace”, and it is said by an Angel, meaning, by God Himsel delivering a message through His Servant Saint Gabriel.

    Concerning “Mediatrix”, “co-redemptrix”, and so on : we catholics exagerate concerning the “concepts”, but regarding to the theological and catechesis understaning, we clearly know that only Jesus is the Mediator. No catholic will put Mary at the same level as Jesus. But it remains true that “all generations will say She is blessed (Luke 1, 48).

    Concerning the events of Fatima, it is only an optionnal teaching, because catholic official sources for teaching are only Tradition, Bible and Magisterium.

    Nota Bene : Hatred of Jews is the work of the devil, especially when the Jewish person is the mother of the Messiah. Mary.

    The more You hate her, the more you feed both hatred in you and the hatred of the devil against the woman who obeyed totally to God, an achievement that Eva could not do.

    But this is not demonic possession from You, I hope it is only a theological mistake.

    Thankyou !

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  3. JAC's avatar JAC

    I agree with the counterclaims of Concorde Theologale, except for this part:

    “Concerning sex with Saint Joseph, the acknowledgement of the miracle-based arrival of Jesus through Mary undoubtedly prevented both of them to accept lust in their lives even after Jesus was born. If they had sex after, it would mean that their religious conscience were so pagan, which is not the case.”

    Although there could be lustful sex (oral sex, sodomy, etc.) between a married couple, natural acts such as intercourse between them are not lustful, but holy. In fact, the Bible talks about it being sinful for a married couple to withhold sex from each other. That being said, one could argue that, considering God Himself came through Mary’s womb, she and Joseph were Spirit-led not to have sex. Perhaps their “union” was an exception because Mary was the human vessel for Jesus’ birth. In other words, given her office/role, maybe their union simply involved hand holding, hugging, cheek kisses, and other types of intimacy besides sex.

    As for the visual rhetoric earlier showing people revering statues, the author asked, “Can you see the difference?” Obviously, it was meant as a rhetorical question since it was followed up by, “Me neither.” However, I can see the difference. In the depictions on the left, the people are paying homage to gods/deities that have no connection with Jesus Christ. Conversely, those on the right are reverencing the mother of God via what I believe Catholic tradition calls a “sacramental.” It’s interesting that many protestants have no issues about falling to their knees in prayer before a crucifix because it symbolizes/reminds us (believers) of Jesus’ sacrifice, yet they get livid over Catholics falling to their knees or bowing in front of Mary statues because the sculptures remind them of Jesus’ “blessed” mother and the virgin birth of our savior.

    Thank you for letting me weigh in on your site,
    J.A.C.

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  4. lea's avatar lea

    I agree with some things on your site is good .. but I dont agree what you writing about Virgin ..in old testament they had too arch of testament -there was angels on arch of testament and ppl was pray to arch ?was idolatry ?in arch of testament was god words ,was manna and hight priest ,them Virgin Mary born word of god ,manna and hight priest ,,who is Woman from relevation ?why Jesus call him mother woman ?why in exodus :And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel…Mary is woman -jesus tell her woman for reason,,.

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  5. MomofFour's avatar MomofFour

    Just a clarification. JESUS is the only way to the Father. All Catholics agree. But who do we turn to when we are struggling to have that relationship with Jesus? As a mom of boys, I appreciate that Mary, as a HUMAN BEING, and a mother, went through the trials of motherhood. The saints went through the trials of humanity as well. These humans managed to live in this world of darkness and despair and fight the good fight, and win. Which is what we remember when we pray to them. When I say a rosary, I’m not really focusing on the words. (“hail” is just a way of saying “hello” by the way). Except for the word “Jesus” at which I bow my head. On each Hail Mary, I am actually focusing on something that happened in her life. The first mystery is the Annunciation, so I focus on Gabriel coming to her with God’s plan, her concern for her gift of virginity, her “Yes” to God, and (this is where I bow my head) the moment God became man. We remember and reflect upon the very human situations she faced later in life, her torments and sorrow when men tortured and abused and killed her son…how she somehow found strength through that. Because I am on a similar journey as a mother. To raise my boys to live out the mission of Jesus Christ. To be good, holy men! I sort of need a REALLY good role model for that! So in no way am I praising or adoring the Blessed Mother. I am reflecting on her life so I can model it and make the choices necessary to help get these kids to heaven!

    God gave Adam a female counterpart. As women/mothers, we have our own very different, yet equal, role in this battle. Our role is to support and nourish and care for the strong warriors who are out there in the field. As Mary supported and nourished Jesus’s humanity. So is it REALLY demonic to ask her for help?

    We don’t bow to Mary at church, btw. Her statue is a reminder to the moms at church that Mary was a mom, too. When we are in the middle of The Confiteor, trying to humble ourselves and repent before God, and the baby’s shoe goes flying into the next pew, we are able to look up at her and REMEMBER: Mary had to teach her son the rules. Mary had to clean dirty diapers. Mary helped Jesus with His sandals (which probably weren’t flying around the temple!). When I am able to look at the image of a holy person in times of temptation (in this case impatience), it is better than allowing myself to focus on an evil, demonic image. And we all know they use that impatience as a doorway. When I look at the statue of Mary, I REMEMBER to put things into perspective and make the right choice as I struggle with the impatience. Just like we have alarms to remind us of the time, we have images as reminders/prompts to make good, holy choices!

    The saints work the same way. One saint I appreciate is Saint Monica, mother of Saint Augustine. She prayed her son to heaven! And in the world we live in, where it is virtually impossible to keep the filthy outside from taunting the beautiful children God gave us, I remember that she succeeded through persistent prayer. She was human, and despite her son’s upbringing, she persisted in prayer and helped him on his journey to heaven. So I don’t worship her, I learn about her struggles, how she faced them, the choices she made, and her other “battle tactics”. And I try to remember those if I’m in similar situations with my kids. And I ask her to pray for me, just like I ask my friends in faith to pray for me. Her soul is good, her soul is still there….so why can’t she pray for me?

    Mary is “full of grace”, but isn’t going to bestow a single drop unless it is God’s Holy Will. And since God doesn’t owe me a thing, including hearing my prayers for graces, why can’t I just ask Mary to ask Him for me? You mentioned in the sleep paralysis article, who are we to ask for protection?! Right? That implies humility, which is why I ask a person better than I am to present my prayers before God. I am not good enough! I am a sinner! I doubt my imperfect prayers, requests, and adoration bring much pleasure to God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit. So maybe if she asks, God will grant the request or accept the offering for HER sake.

    I know “Jesus is merciful and HE will get you back to God”. Yes. He is the only bridge between us and God. But Mary and the Saints get us to that bridge. Because that’s a difficult path to navigate! My relationship with Jesus is slowly evolving. I was a loss for how to approach Him. He is my King and Savior, so “friend Jesus” isn’t an option. He isn’t “Father”, because that’s my relationship with God. “Teacher” is tough, because the most memorable coaches and teachers in my life were women, and older than myself. It’s hard to grasp that one when you are the same age as Jesus was at the end of His earthly existence. “Brother” also lacks reverence, at least to me. Soooo how do I have that relationship??? It wasn’t until I ever-so-briefly read about Saint Therese of Liseux of the Child Jesus that I was able to find something that worked. Which is also Scripture relevant and that makes it more comfortable. I must go to Him like a child. And so I’ve got the bridge in sight. But there was no way I would have made that revelation or gotten to it without the help of His mother or the saints.

    SOME PEOPLE do worship Mary and the Saints. Which is wrong. It is not unexpected, though. Man has twisted and perverted all the good that God created since the beginning of our creation. It stands to reason we would find a way to twist and pervert a relationship with Mary and the Saints into worship and idolatry. So that’s a point to remember as well.

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  6. follower of Christ's avatar follower of Christ

    This youtube video presentation answers very many questions to the ones struggling to understand the meaning of IDOLATRY, its differences, be done with it, forsake it, repent it, resist it, neither give place to the devil nor his campgrounds….and run to the Hands of Jesus Christ!

    If you really want to make the devil feel at home in your life then YOU ARE A DEVIL’S CAMPGROUND!

    Video 1

    Video 2

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    https://www.proclaimingthegospel.org/page/180014816/180103532/Current-Newsletters

    Accept the Lord Jesus today…time is running out…

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      1. Unknown's avatar Anonymous

        My people perish for lack of knowledge. Go through all the book of old testament you will see virgin Mary . She is not only our spiritual mother also mother of God. For women you should know that virgin Mary is your Redeemer and savior

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  7. Unknown's avatar Anonymous

    Why are we running away from the truth. In the first generation God made woman from rib of Man , in second generation God made man from a woman. What is the big deal? A woman redeemed a woman and a Man redeemed a man. The idea that Jesus redeemed both man and woman is not true, Jesus is a man that has the attribute of Man so there is no way he could have redeemed woman because that is against divine order.

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